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 | cramerann
Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1 Oshkosh WI 
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2005-02-28 107006
has anyone had experience with rear loader buckets??
They attach to 3 pt hitch and have additional cylinder to operate the pitch of the bucket??
What do you think?? They are about half the cost of a front end loader
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Keith
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| hardwood
Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3583 iowa 
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2005-03-01 107014
I've not used one myself, but have saw them being used mainly for clearing snow. I don't know how high they lift to dump, but that might be a restriction to load a trailer. They would however give excellent traction for a 2 wheel drive tractor, and as you say half the cost of a front loader is a factor too, it all depends on your needs. Frank. ....
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 | Murf
Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7249 Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada
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2005-03-01 107023
Up until the advent of the CUT with a FEL there was one on practically every horse farm around here. They were used to muck out the barns and stack the manure onto the politicians. They would lift about 5' or 6' high and usually were gravity dump only.
The most common variety were a fixed manure fork with a heavy sheet metal 'bucket' that slipped into the fork and converted it for use on loose product such as sawdust or shavings for bedding material. The big disadvantage with type of 'loader' is that the bucket is relatively a long way out on the arm. As a result, lift capacity is very low, usually only a few hundred pounds. This makes them almost useless for soil or gravel which is much heavier for a given volume.
There was another type which had no boom arm at all, it was merely a bucket with a lift frame which mounted straight to the 3pth. They had good lift capacity, but no height capability, they only lift about 2' up. The big advantage is that they are usually reversible, that is they can be faced forward and used like a drop-bottom scraper. A farm not far from me dug a 2 acre pond with one, the teenage son spent all one summer with a Ford 8N and one of these buckets moving dirt. They are also very inexpensive.
Either way, if all you need is small amounts of material and limited lift height, they work well.
Best of luck. ....
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 | shortmagnum
Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 848 Wisconsin 
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2005-03-01 107032
Murf said: "There was another type which had no boom arm at all, it was merely a bucket with a lift frame which mounted straight to the 3pth. They had good lift capacity, but no height capability, they only lift about 2' up. The big advantage is that they are usually reversible, that is they can be faced forward and used like a drop-bottom scraper. A farm not far from me dug a 2 acre pond with one, the teenage son spent all one summer with a Ford 8N and one of these buckets moving dirt. They are also very inexpensive."
I bought one of these for use with a Ford 2N. I have no doubt that a nice pond could be built with one. They are also especially usefull when you want to scalp the surface of sod and topsoil before excavating. Putting a slight downward pitch on the cutting surface actually pulls the rear of the tractor down as it digs. So you never really run out of traction even with a 2WD, just horsepower.
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 | beagle
Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1333 Michigan 
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2005-03-01 107035
If you're in the mood for a little project, CadPlans has a rear bucket set-up that looks pretty simple to build. Never seen one completed, but I have seen the drawings. Check it out at their website. ....
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 | earthwrks
Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 3853 Home Office in Flat Rock, Michigan
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2005-03-06 107400
35 years ago we must have had a r-e-a-l-l-y old one--it was a horse-drawn-type with two, long wooden handles. I forget how it dumped--either by rolling it onto its side or hitting a trip lever with your foot. Either way, I watched mom and dad dig a shallow well with it in sand and an equally old Farmall. The hole it dug was longer than it was deep, but it worked--for awhile before it dried up. ....
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| hardwood
Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3583 iowa
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2005-03-07 107411
earthwerks: The thing you're talking about we called a slip scraper. When I was a kid I helped my Uncle use one. He walked along behind it hanging onto the wooden handles till it got full then I think he just let it tip over frontwards to dump. I drove the tractor to pull it up out of the hole, then after he dumped it he would drag it back down into the hole. I saw one at a sale a few years ago, so some are still around. Frank. ....
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 | BillMullens
Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 649 Central West Virginia 
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2005-03-07 107413
Dad and I used a slip scraper to do all of our landscaping around the house site before it was built. You dumped it by picking up on the handles until the lip of the bucket dug in a bit, then kept on raising the handles until it dumped forward.
Dad was raised during the depression and has been "thrifty" his whole life; he couldn't stand to buy a tractor, so he built one from Model A & T parts; thus we had to use horse-drawn implements with it - no hydraulics or lift.
Funny, we got along just fine.
After I left home, of course, he started collecting tractors.
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